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關於新型冠狀病毒
凱史先生與中國王琳的對話(第一回合)

 

 

凱史:我注意到剛開始之前,來自中國的王琳與我們一起,她是凱史基金會全中國營運的負責人。很想知道一杯一命的現況,以及來自中國知識尋求者的情形。(6:47)

 

王琳,可以加入我們嗎,你想說點話嗎?可否向我們解釋一下中國目前的狀況?來自基金會與全世界都很關心。以及中國目前情況如何?你得雙頭翻譯,因為另一邊的人也在等著學習。

王琳:那麼你想知道一杯一命,還是整個情況?

凱史:整個情況,我們得知道發生了什麼事。

王琳:春節過後,照理該回去上班了。但控制更加嚴密,大概的情形是武漢所在之外的省,回報的確診案例每天在減少,已經持續一個禮拜。但是武漢的確診人數卻暴增到15,000人。那是因為之前醫院缺乏資源追蹤數據,很多人被診斷出卻無處可去。沒有醫院,沒有病床,沒有治療。他們得自己想方法。

#部分中醫上網引導使用中藥
所幸很多中醫上網成立群組引導人們使用中要救助生命。實際上效果蠻好的。在中國是西藥主導,但到目前沒有有效的藥物。即使是來自美國的醫藥,副作用很多,只是一些內部的消息,呃……

所以此時此刻,中藥重新扮演一個角色,有些中醫院的醫生團隊前往武漢支援該省。

希望我們能控制疫情,政府延長放假時間,一些貨運停止發貨,所以我想大多數工廠仍然關閉。他們封閉社區,像我的社區,有個家庭,兒子從台灣飛武漢,轉機又飛回去,他感染病毒,實際上是他的父母先感染到,然後他被診斷出,現在我們的社區封閉。只能每兩天出去採買一次,而且每一個家庭只能有一個人外出採買一些日常必需用品與食品。老的雜貨店則關閉,只有一家超市開著。(12:06)

一杯一命的成功範例
我們有些案例,我們曾設法協助武漢一位女士,在我們公布做法以後,她的媽媽現正在康復中,當時她甚至得叫救護車將母親送往醫院,但遭5家醫院拒收,不得不把母親帶回家。

在幾乎絕望之餘,她聽到我們有解決方案,想嘗試看看。所以我們就近央求在武漢市的知識尋求志願送達,為她提供協助。

她開始噴灑,攝取與以此呼吸一點。大多數時候,她噴灑身體。但對於飲用比較遲疑(不敢喝),母親的肺部嚴重受損,需要氧氣機幫助呼吸。最初想用我們的甘斯水代替裡頭的過濾水,但她母親表示這樣無法呼吸。她的家人都試著喝一點,但是大多數時間還是噴灑,包括臉,嘴,肺與身體背部。以及所有家具,和室內環境。

隔天她想為母親找到中醫配些藥材,服用這些藥。現在她的母親幾乎康復,胃口很好,可以獨自起身走路。真是個好消息。 (14:56)

凱史:網路上宣導一杯一命的情形如何呢?

王琳:網路上,我們得到北京大學老人機構的支持,在他們的網站上推廣一杯一命。也轉到不同的平台。

受到攻擊
另一方面,我們受到很多不相信的人的攻擊,甚至包括清華大學的一名化學教授,他寫了一篇文章說我們的技術是假科學,在網路上帶風向說我們的科技是假科學,我們遇到很多推廣上的問題。

同樣,當我們的知識尋求者想要在群組傳遞訊息時,會被踢出,被詛咒,甚至被辱罵,也被網路警察警告不得再發布此類訊息。所以實際上我們感到有些沮喪。儘管我們立意良好,想幫助國家與人民。但這項科技不被大眾所接受。 (17:13)

凱史:政府與軍方的現況如何?

王琳:我們積極與政府聯繫,你也寫了親筆信給主席與總理,我們傳遞這些文件時,他們轉給衛生官員,請求他們評估。我們也接洽衛生官員,他們很努力說他們會評估這項技術。

凱史:上海的醫院情況如何?(這裡是泛指上海的醫院,不是名為上海醫院)

王琳:他們(上海的醫院)說無法接受,最新的消息是他們不想嘗試。一位中醫師一直在用我們的甘斯水結合中草藥,感覺很好,他設法治癒了一些病,例如一些疾病的早期階段。他有信心能以我們的技術繼續往前。
所以有兩家(中)醫院表示願意嘗試…。

凱史:知識尋求者的現況又是什麼?

王琳:實際上,知識尋求者最近很活躍,生產越來越多的甘斯,我們設法找到更多新手,教他們自己做出生平第一次的甘斯。

我們有個QQ小組,有1100名成員,彼此交流這項技術的相關信息,好比如何做一杯一命的甘斯。

凱史:騰訊新聞的現況如何?

王琳:耶,這很有趣,一杯一命的文章與影片點擊率短短幾天就超過10,000次。然後我們突然發現騰訊新聞,新聞報導我們有一杯一命,是針對這病毒的解方,但清大教授說這是假科學,隔天討論的輿論就說這是謠言,是假的。假科學。

凱史:但他們把它拉下來了嗎,還是還在?

王琳:耶,還在,大家在不同平台轉發說我們是假科學,蠻可悲的。(21:38)

凱史:一般大眾如何看待?

王琳:有人相信,有人不信。 但我想大多數的知識尋求者都會回頭,因為他們使用這項技術多年,知道它確實有效。

現在,我們正在實施一項計劃,發動千人連署與收集證言,遞交給政府表達心聲,讓大家知道這項技術可用。為什麼一個對等離子體技術一無所知的教授說的話,大家全買單,這樣很奇怪。

凱史:單憑一個人就產生這樣的效應?

王琳:中國,大家相信學術的東西,相信大學教授講的話。這是很平常的事。 (22:52)

待續
(註:先不下結論。凱史先生在下一次,第316次的教學,卻說到他不認為凱史科技與中藥的結合是時候,等於委婉的說他不鼓勵這樣的結合…………但為了呈現整個教學的過程,所以還是節錄出來)

 

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About Wu Han virus
Dialogue between Mr. Keshe and Wang Lin in China (1)
 
Keshe: I’ve noticed just before we started, Wang Lin was with us from China, she’s head of the Keshe foundation operation in the whole China. And it’ll be nice to know what’s happening with the one cup one life, and how we hear from our Chinese knowledge seekers. (6:47)
 
Wang Lin, would you like to join us, would you like to speak? can you explain to us what is happening in China now? It’s the concerns from the foundation and the world. And how do we see in China. What is the position? You have to translate for both sides, because they are waiting for you on the side to learn.
 
Wang lin: so you want to know the one cup one life, or the whole situation?
 
Keshe: the whole situation, we have to know what’s going on.
 
Wang lin: after Chinese new year, it’s supposed to go back to work. But the control is more tight, the general situation is out of province of Wu Han, the cases reported became decreased every day about in 1 week. But the numbers in wu Han has jumped to 15,000 something (people get infected). That’s because before there is lack of hospital resources, and lot of people being diagnosed, have no place to go. No hospitals, no beds, no treatment. They have to find a way.
 
【Some doctors go on line to guide how to use Chinese medicine】
It’s good there is lot of Chinese doctors, they are on line to set up groups to guide people how to utilize Chinese medicine to save their lives. Actually they have good effects. In China, it’s western medicine dominate, but they don’t have the effective medicine so far. Even though they have American medicine, but that has lot of side effect, just some internal information, uh… So at this moment, Chinese traditional medicine has taken more role, there are some groups of doctors teams from Chinese Medicine hospitals go there to support the province in Wu Han.
 
Hopefully we can control (epidemic), but the government extend the vacation, some of the (cargo) delivery stopped operation, so I think most of the factories are still closed. They block the community, such as my community, there is one family, the son has taken flight from Taiwan to Wu Han to transfer the flight, and fly back, he caught the disease (virus), in fact, his parents got first, then he was diagnosed, now our community is locked. We are only allowed to go out once every two days, and only person in one family can go out to buy some daily necessary food, and goods. Older (grocery) stores are closed by the government. Only one supermarket is open. (12:06)
 
【one cup, one life, one successful exampe】
we have some cases, we’ve managed to fund one lady in Wu Han city, after we released such way of doing, her mom now is recovering, at that time she even have to call the ambulance to take her mom to the hospital, but was turned down by 5 hospitals. She had to bring her (mom) back.
 
At the moment of almost in despair, she heard we have the solution, she wanted to try. So we got one knowledge seeker as volunteer in Wu Han city to make gans, and make way to deliver to her. She started to spray, feed, and breathe a little bit. Most of the time, she sprays the body. They hesitate to drink (gans water), also her mom’s lungs are damaged so badly, she need the oxygen machine to help breathing. She tried to change the filter water with our gans water, but her mom’s response was she couldn’t breathe.
 
All of her family have tried to drink something (gans water?) but most time is by spray, include face, mouth, lungs, and the back of the body. Also all the furniture, all the in-house environment. The next day, she tried to find the Chinese doctor to give her mom some recipe of Chinese medicine, and feed her mom these medicine. Now her mom is almost recovered, and has good appetite, she can get up and walk by herself. That’s good news. (14:56)
 
Keshe: what is the situation with the promotion on the internet with the one cup one life?
Wang lin: on internet, we got support from older institution of Beijing opening university, they help promote our one cup, one life on their website. And also reach the platforms.
 
【Getting attacked】
On the other hand we are getting attacked by lot of people who don’t believe, even include one chemistry professor in Chin Hua university, he wrote an article to say that our technology is fake science, on internet there are many posts to say we are fake science, we met a lot of problems to promote. Also when our knowledge seekers tried to spread the information in some groups, they got kicked out, or been cursed, or even dirty words, or even warned by internet police to refrain from release such information.
 
So actually we feet a little bit frustrated. Although we have good intention, try to help the nation, and the people. Since the technology is not accepted by the mass audience. (17:13)
 
Keshe: what is the position with the government, the military?
Wang lin: we actively approached the government side, you have signed the letters to president and prime minister, when we deliver the documents, they pass to the health authorities, and asked them to evaluate. We also approached the officers in health authorities, they tried very hard, they said they guarantee the expertise to evaluate the technology.
 
Keshe: what’s happening in Shanghai hospitals?
 
Wang lin: they (shanghai hospitals) said they can’t accept that, the most updated information is they don’t want to give it a try. And one Chinese doctor, he’s been using our gans water to mix the Chinese herb medicine, he felt very good, he already managed to cure several cases, like disease at the early stage. He is confident to move ahead with our technology. So there are two (chinese medicine) hospitals expressed they would consider to try….
 
Keshe: what’s the position with the knowledge seekers?
Wang lin: actually the knowledge seekers are very active recently, they produced more and more ganses, we also tried to teach more new comers, they make their own ganses for the first time. We have a qq group, having 1100 members, exchange information about the technology, like how to make the one cup, one life ganses,
 
Keshe: you was in a position with Ten Sen news?
Wang lin: yeah, that’s funny, because the click rate of the article and the video of this one cup one life reached more than 10,000 clicks in only couple days. Then we suddenly found the Ten Sen news, which said we have one cup one life, solution for the virus, but because the professor of Chin Hua university said it’s a fake science, the next day, the discussion became it’s a rumor, it’s fake science. Keshe: but, did they take it out, or still there? Wang lin: yeah, it’s still there, people spread more and more at different platforms that we are fake, that’s very pity. (21:38)
 
Keshe: how is the population taking it?
Wang lin: some people believe, some don’t. but I think most of the knowledge seekers they come back, because they utilize this technology for many years, they know it does work. Now we are carrying out a program to collect signatures, and the testimony, we planned to deliver to the government, to collect thousands of people’s voice to make known this technology can help people. Why a professor who knew nothing about plasma technology, he said one word, everybody buy in it, that’s strange thing.
 
Keshe: so one man has done that?
 
Wang lin: in China, people believe in academic thing, believing professor in the university. It’s normal. (22:52)
 
To be continued
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