如同我說的，我教他們怎麼做金子。我說，要做金子，需要汞以及一個中子。他們看著我，「但金子在原子上比汞少一個中子。」我說，「對，如果你想從汞，拿掉一個質子、一個中子、以及一個電子，去做金子的話。這會費很大的功夫。但如果你把一個中子放進汞裡，馬上改變成一個質子，與一個電子。然後汞會不穩定，變成金子與氦氣，我們就可以推動它變成能源。
As I said, I was teaching them how to make gold. I said, to make gold, we need mercury and one neutron. And they looked at me, “But gold is one neutron less atomically than mercury.” I said, “Yes if you want to take a proton, a neutron, and an electron out of mercury to make it gold, it is a lot of work. But if you put one neutron in the mercury, which immediately changes to a proton and an electron, then you have unstable mercury, which becomes gold and helium, and we can push it to become energy.
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