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一個靈魂跟很多靈魂分享勝過於好多靈魂拿出來分享

第212次知識尋求


那些自以為是素食者,你知道我對素食主義者的看法嗎?


現在,我來講一件我從沒討論過的事情。


身為存有,我們吃一隻羊。但我們當中沒有人能一次吃完一整隻羊,所以我們分成三、四十人份? 所以,我們40個人或50個人對一個靈魂有罪。


但當你吃素吃蔬菜,每個扁豆都有靈魂。你能想像你一盤菜裡吃了多少靈魂嗎?


但那都不是問題。


【他們說素食主義者非常心平氣和】

他們說素食主義者非常心平氣和。我告訴你為什麼他們心平氣和。因為他們殺了那麼多,靈魂的羞愧不允許再惹其他任何的事。靈魂拿了那麼多的負擔,不讓靈魂提升。靈魂無法提升,它們(蔬菜)就無法進化。


你看到他們很心平氣和,素食者一派祥和。是的,我知道,但你應該跟他們的靈魂說說話,你應該看看他們靈魂的負擔。這是我們要了解的。


我們要接受人生的謬誤到甚麼程度?

不要看我,自己去分析。


你不需要神父,大師,以及先知。在太空你知道發生了什麼。但你必須了解一件事,對我是食物的,我在他眼裡也是食物。(What is food to me, I am food to him.) 


為什麼?

你在吃的同時,這個食物也在給你,成了你的身體靈魂,它讓自己提升到更高點,如果它夠聰明。


如果你了解「我服務,以便被服務」的意思。


現在我們了解形體的結構,如果我們能了解事實,你會親身實踐轉換物質條件到等離子體。然後透過了解,我們能收到場域的等離子體,不需要吃掉另一個東西,然後你了解到在宇宙的空間如何餵養你的靈魂。


從那時起,一切都是美麗的給予。你想開溜,它說,「吃了我,吃了我吧,我想給你更多,你那麼美,我可以給你更多,讓你變得更美。」


不是在物質形體的狀態說,「哦,我吃掉你,你那麼美,我必須把你納入我的體內」。


尼可拉斯:我的問題是關於素食,剛聽到很多凱史先生說的。「是這樣,你知道我對素食的看法。」


(之後說了很長一大段,但剛好這段凱史先生被踢出去,斷線了)


是這樣,我不會全部聽進去,但我很感興趣。我吃素,一直是吃肉的素食者。如果我跟別人聚餐,大家在吃肉,我通常會淺嚐幾口,不會堅持不吃肉,但吃肉比較難消化。


里克: 凱史先生說的殺生,整件事他在講的,如果你吃素,你會殺害很多生命,比方小麥或穀物這類的東西。每個穀物,都是一粒粒分開的東西,你會吃進很多生命,而一隻動物,可能分給20個人分食。這類的觀念。


【一個靈魂跟很多靈魂分享,勝過於好多靈魂拿出來分享】


卡羅琳娜:你想知道,你想知道凱史先生如何解釋它嗎?


他說,「我寧願殺死一隻動物,以一個靈魂分享給很多靈魂,也不要殺害......如果你面前有一碗飯,每一粒都是一個靈魂,因為它們都有生命的後代。每一粒米都有自己的靈魂。如果你吃一碗飯,你能想像那一碗飯裡的靈魂數量嗎。」


所以,這是凱史先生想要解釋的比例原則,不只這樣,他說過好幾次,「寧願以一個靈魂跟很多靈魂分享,勝過於以好多靈魂拿來分享。你以為你沒有在殺害。但是單一粒米攜帶的靈魂,等同於一隻更大的動物。」


殺害沒有任何不同。


卡羅琳娜:里克,你還記得嗎,在凱史先生重新上線之前,(他提過)我們咀嚼會發出聲音,我們存在的背景會不再聽到某些聲音。我們不想聽到一些傷害的聲音。


所以才有這份知識在這裡,開始去了解探索,並試圖以不同方式,讓人們看到我們在看動物、植物、整個環境的方式,我們在這個天堂對自身的行為站在一個負責任的位置。


有些事情只因是習慣不代表是OK的

有些事情,只因為它們是一種習慣,只因為他們早在那裡,是個習俗,如此之久,不代表那就是OK的。那就是我們在努力的道途,想讓大眾覺知到可以如何改變。


很多在經營農場的農夫會尊重動物,我也知道很多人家裡有寵物。但是,我們要了解,真實與我們以為的真實,之間有個距離,我想這是凱史先生想對所有人釐清的。只是不知道要追朔到多久多久以前。


美好的是,如果你看印第安人,他們不會輕易拿走一條生命,除非他們殺害之前會先請求靈魂的許可。甚至是植物,藥草,水果,他們使用的一切會經過尊重的儀式。


這是我們已經脫節的地方。

這是祖先養大他們的方式,

知識仍然在那裡,

他們也仍然在應用。

我們可以學到很多,這是凱史先生想要解釋的路徑,

也許看來沒問題但不代表OK


非常緩慢地,在不同階段,我們把現實帶到餐桌,正如凱史先生想要解釋與延伸的,當真理坐在完全不同的位置,掩飾有什麼用?


如果我們對自己夠誠實,看進真理,我們會開始啟發自己,啟發他人,開始看到真理的道路。不再愚弄自己,試著找更多理由,更好理由。


凱史: 我們可以回來嗎,對不起,剛斷線。能聽到我的聲音嗎?


(待續)


Eating in the universe (3)~1

prefer one Soul to share with many than to take so many Souls

#ksw212


Those of you who, think you are vegetarian

and you know my opinion about the vegetarian?


Now, I give you something which I never discuss.


If, as... as a being, we consume one lamb. But none of us can eat the whole lamb in one go, we split it 30, 40 of us? So, we... it's 40 of us guilty for one, or 50 of us are guilty for one Soul.


But, when you consume vegetarian food,

each lentil has a Soul. Can you imagine how much Soul you consume in one plate?


But that's not a problem.


They say the vegetarian are very calm. I tell you why they're calm. Because they kill so many, the shame of the Soul does not allow anything else. The burden on the Soul to support what is taken, so many, does not allow the Soul to elevate. And then when it cannot elevate, they can not evolve.


You see them very calm, they are very serene people, vegetarians. Yes I know you should talk to their Soul, you should see the burden of. This is what we have to understand.


To what extent, we have become to accept fallacies of Life?


And don't rely on me, analyze it yourself.


Then, you don't need no priest, no guru, no prophets.


In Space you understand, what is going on.


But you have to realize one thing,


What is food to me, I am food to him.


Why, you think you consume at the same time in giving to you, which become the Soul of your Physicality, it makes itself to elevate to the higher point too. If it's clever enough.


If you understand the position of, "I serve to be served".


So, now we understand the structure of the Physicality, the structure of physics.


If we now understand the reality and then you talk and walk into the condition of the conversion of the Matter into the ... Plasma.


And then through understanding of that, that we can receive the Plasma of the Fields we don't need to eat another Matter, then you understand how to feed your Soul, in the Space of the Universe.


And from then on, nothing is delicious,

everything is beautiful to give to.


You will run, it says, "Eat me, eat me" I want to give you more, you're so beautiful that I can give you more that you become more beautiful."


Not ... on the Matter-State says,

"Oh, I eat you, you're so beautiful I have to take you in me".


Any questions?


RC:Nicholas is back though [laughing] Okay Nick, Nicholas I'll allow you to talk and ...


Maybe you can bring something up, they

have a question about what was just said and you can basically kinda get us warmed

up for Mr Keshe when he comes back.


Nicolas: Well, that was quite a teaching about being the Soul that's going to take some thought.


I guess my question, no I don't guess. My question comes to this aspect of vegetarian and ...just ... hear more about that, that Mr Keshe ... is saying where he said.


"Well you know my attitude ... you know my thoughts about vegetarian." Well, I don't because I guess I don't listen to everything

but I am very interested. I guess ... I'm a vegetarian. I've always related to it as being a meat eating vegetarian ...


Because if, you know, if I'm at a table and somebody's serving meat... then I'll usually

have a bite of it or so. But ... I find that I don't care to put meat in my body. It's, it's seems to be harder to digest, maybe that's in my head, you know.


How well does one know themselves? ...


(RC) What he's talking about ...killing other beings basically. And that's the, the whole thing he's saying is that you're killing many more beings by being a vegetarian like for eating, I suppose, say wheat, as an example, or grain.


You might, if each grain is a separate being, then you would be eating many beings, as opposed to the meat eater, where one animal, one being would feed maybe 20 people or something like that.


That's sort of the concept.


(CdR) Do you want to know, do you want

to know how Mr Keshe explains it?


(RC) I would Love to, thank you Caroline.


(CdR) He says, "I prefer to kill one animal, one Soul and share it with many Souls,

than to kill...If you have a bowl of rice in

front of you, each grain is a Soul because it has a new offspring of Life in it.


So, it carries its own individual Soul, each grain. So if you eat a bowl of rice you can ... you can imagine the amount of Souls which is in that plate."


So, this is how Mr Keshe is trying to

explain the proportion and not only that.


He repeated quite a few times, he says,

"I prefer to have one Soul to share with many, than to take so many Souls and you think you are not killing. But, that one single grain carries the same Soul as that one, let's say,

bigger animal.


The killing is in no way, no measure, any different."


(CdR) Do you also remember Rick, in the time till Mr Keshe comes back, that we have become numb? We have put the noise of what we chew, so far in the background of our being that we don't listen anymore.


We prevent to listen, but the pain and the suffering, is caused. And that's why this knowledge is here, to start understanding and to explore it and try to make it, in a way, different ways to accept for people the way we look at animals, plants, trees, our whole environment, that we take a responsible position in how we are conducting ourselves

in this paradise.


And that, some things, because it's not because they are a habit, and it's not because they've been there, as a custom and for so long, that doesn't mean that it is okay. And that's the road and the path we are trying to...

make awareness in how we can change it.


And the respect, and a lot of people, as the gentleman just came to explain, a lot of farmers have respect, a lot of people which are running farms have respect for the animals. And I know a lot of people have pets and animals at home.


But, we have to understand the difference between the reality and what we think is reality. And I think this is the message Mr Keshe is trying to make clear for all of us.


We simply did not know.


The... it's a long, long, long time back, it was known. And it... the beauty, in so many ways is, if you look at the Indians, they will not take a single Life, unless they request and they ask permission of the Soul, before they will kill the animal, even the plants, the herbs,

the fruits, they consume, everything has a ritual of respect, and this is something we are not so close in touch with anymore.


It's the way they have been brought up,

through their ancestors, that knowledge is still present and they still apply it. And we can learn a lot.


And this is the path Mr Keshe is trying to explain, that, "Maybe it looks okay, but that doesn't mean, it is okay". And very slowly, in different stages, we're bringing the reality onto the table.


Because, as Mr Keshe is trying to explain and extend, what's the use of trying to cover it up, when the Truth sits in a totally different position?


And if we are honest to ourselves, to look into it, we can start inspiring ourselves and others, to start looking at the path of Truth. And not to fool ourselves that we try to make it more, or different or better than the reality is there.


(MK) If we go back, sorry I got dropped off.

Can you hear me?


To be continued 

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